Argument Against Vaccinations

If you’re still curious about why we don’t vaccinate, or what our arguments are, I’m posting my full argument, with 13 different points and 38 different resources. Please look at them for yourselves, don’t trust what I have to say. I have many more sources, too, if you’re interested in even further research!

Reasoning Against Vaccines

1) Vaccines have many scary ingredients.
Have you ever read a package insert or signed a vaccine consent form? Chances are, you haven’t. It used to be standard practice that doctors provided parents with a thorough description of the vaccine’s benefits and drawbacks before administering them. These days, though, it is standard for doctors to inform parents of the benefits of vaccination and common, minor side effects. There are no forms to sign; consent is generally assumed unless a parent brings up reservations specifically. Since most conversations go no further than “She’ll be a bit sore and tired and may have a fever, so feel free to give some Tylenol and let her rest,” most parents have no idea what’s actually in vaccines these days.

Here is a partial list of vaccine ingredients:

  • The virus itself (of course), either weakened or inactivated
  • An adjuvant (a chemical that boosts the immune reaction) – usually some form of aluminum. Aluminum sulfide, aluminum hydroxide, and others are common.
  • Thimerosal (this is in the flu vaccine and a few others including DTaP and Hib; it is also used in the manufacturing process so when companies claim they are ‘thimerosal free,’ they mean they have removed all but trace amounts in the final product – but, some is still in there)
  • Formaldehyde
  • Human diploid cells (which means, aborted fetal tissue…the viruses must be cultured in living tissue, so sometimes human tissue is chosen. This introduces foreign RNA and DNA into the baby. The same cell lines have been used since the 1950s and may have mutated)
  • Monkey kidney cells/Chicken embryos (sometimes viruses are cultured in animal cells instead)
  • Eggs (in MMR; contraindicated for anyone with an egg allergy)
  • Neomycin (antibacterial agent; in most shots)
  • MSG (known neurotoxin; in varicella and flumist)

These ingredients can cause potentially serious reactions, either in the short term of the long term. Allergic reactions are possible. The body can also store aluminum and mercury as toxins, which can cause problems down the road (neurological and other issues). It’s true that some people metabolize these heavy metals quickly, but not everyone does. Scientists are currently not aware of how these ingredients affect different people with different body chemistries.

Some scientists will argue that thimerosal (a controversial additive that has been “removed” in many cases) is not dangerous because it is ethyl mercury, not methyl mercury. The problem with this argument is that ethyl mercury is an entirely synthetic substance which has not been thoroughly studied. There is no actual “safe level” of this chemical, and the body does not react to synthetics the same way it does to naturally occurring substances. It is also true that the trace amounts that are left in the shots, when the shots are given according to the CDC’s schedule, add up to greater than the “safe level” set for methyl mercury. This is, of course, assuming that there is truly a “safe level” of mercury to inject into one’s body.

Sources:

  •  http://www.novaccine.com/vaccine-ingredients/
  • http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-1.pdf
  • http://www.wanttoknow.info/060215vaccinesmercurydangers
  • http://www.novaccine.com/vaccine-ingredients/results.asp?sc=69
  • http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2957583/ (thimerosal is neuro-degenerative)
  • http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11064-011-0427-0 (thimserosal and neurotoxicity)
  • http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21568886 (aluminum adjuvant toxicity)
  • http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16928369 (aluminum and brain damage)

2) Most doctors are unaware of vaccine ingredients, contraindications, and other information provided on vaccine package inserts – yet they recommend them to ALL their patients.
One reason why doctors don’t share vaccine package inserts with their patients’ parents and get signed consent forms anymore is because they don’t actually read the package insert. More than one doctor has been shocked to learn what is actually in a vaccine after a concerned parent brought the insert to his/her attention. Doctors today are simply too busy to read all of the information on every drug they prescribe. Instead, they rely on drug reps and pharmacists to provide them with information. In some cases, they don’t get the information at all.

It is important for doctors to know and be familiar with all of the ingredients in vaccines, so that they can make recommendations based on the individual patients. Patients with known allergies or a history of drug/vaccine reactions should not be given vaccines – a fact many doctors fail to be aware of. This increases the chances of serious side effects from vaccines. Many doctors also assume, without this information, that the benefits of vaccination always outweigh the risks and refuse to believe that vaccine reactions occur. This is simply arrogant as there is someone who is allergic to everything. Nothing causes “no reactions” in everyone.

3) The chances of dying in a car accident – or of a vaccine reaction – are far greater than the chances of dying of a ‘vaccine preventable’ disease.
The chances of dying in a car accident are quite low – about 1 in 6 million per car trip (which increases rapidly when you think how often we get in cars) – but the chances of dying of the measles (one of today’s “scariest” recurring diseases) is about 1 in 300 million.  The chances of death from measles may be as high as 2 in 1000 if nobody vaccinated, but that’s still 998 people out of 1000 who will come through measles with no issues at all.

On the other hand, there were 16,174 reactions reported in 2013; 933 were serious reactions, including 54 deaths. It is estimated that only about 1% of vaccine reactions are actually reported, so this number is likely much higher. Even assuming that the reported statistics are correct, that is 7 out of 1 million people who will die of a vaccine reaction (possibly as high as 700, likely closer to 70 out of 1 million). Clearly, it is risky to get a vaccine.  

Sources:

  • http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx
  • http://www.relfe.com/vaccine.html
  • http://www.hrsa.gov/Vaccinecompensation/statistics_report.htm
  • http://www.thinktwice.com/hepb.htm
  • http://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D8;jsessionid=3742076FF06EB5E82319BC000D2CBBAC

4) Vaccines can cause serious reactions in the ‘vulnerable’ segment of the population – and currently, there are no ways of identifying who is in that group until it’s too late.
In recent, publicized cases, including Hannah Poling and Bailey Banks, the government’s “vaccine court” and the CDC admitted that for a small segment of the population, vaccines can cause or exacerbate certain conditions, causing brain damage and neurological disorders. Currently, with no research, the CDC believes that these individuals with vulnerable conditions are rare, and they have no way of identifying who these individuals might be.

Unfortunately, it has been suggested by independent researchers that these conditions are NOT very rare. Up to 1 in 50 people may suffer from them – 2% of the population. The only way to identify these people currently is after damage has already occurred.

We don’t currently have strong research to prove either way that vaccines did or didn’t play a role in these cases, but more and more evidence is showing that it did.  There’s a great list of studies at The Thinking Moms’ Revolution.

Sources:

  • http://www.mitoaction.org/blog/autism-and-mitochondrial-disease
  • http://osdir.com/ml/culture.autism/2005-07/msg00093.html

5) Vaccines (alone) did not actually eradicate diseases.
Contrary to popular belief, vaccines did not reduce the rates of diseases nearly as much as other measures did. In fact, in the early 1960s, rates of measles cases and deaths fell over 99% — before the introduction of the vaccination in 1968. The same is true for many other diseases. In the 1960s, nutrition and sanitation improved immensely, as did access to medical care. These measures had a much larger effect on illness and complication rates than did vaccination.

More importantly, the majority of disease circulating today, which is in the third world, is not due to “lack of vaccines,” but to lack of medical care, malnourishment, and lack of clean water.

Sources:

  • http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/189/Supplement_1/S1.long

6) Herd immunity does not exist.
One of the “strongest” arguments for vaccination is that it is necessary to protect the herd. That is, if most or everyone is vaccinated (doctors and scientists recommend 95% or greater), then even the few people who cannot be vaccinated because they are too young or are medically unable will be protected. Supposedly, this herd immunity also protects all of the vaccinated people, too, because vaccines do not provide 100% protection, so if a large enough percentage is unvaccinated than diseases can begin to circulate again.

If “herd immunity” is necessary, then vaccines must not work that well. If children who are vaccinated can get illnesses they have been vaccinated against, then their vaccines did not work. This is an even bigger problem than is recognized, because if a child has been vaccinated and shows up in a doctor’s office with symptoms of a “vaccine-preventable” disease, the doctor is unlikely to recognize it as such. Doctors do not believe that children who have been vaccinated can get certain diseases, although they can and do. Should an unvaccinated child show up, though, doctors will jump on a diagnosis of a vaccine-preventable disease.

What about babies? In societies that don’t vaccinate, diseases are rare in babies because they are not often exposed to the illnesses, and they are protected by breastfeeding and/or mother’s immunities until 6 months. In societies that DO vaccinate, babies are exposed much sooner and their immune systems are weakened, leading to potentially serious illnesses. This is especially true for whooping cough.

What about the immuno-compromised? At least four of the major vaccines are live-virus vaccines: measles, mumps, rubella, varicella, and flu. All of these viruses “shed” for up to 21 days after vaccination, meaning that a recently-vaccinated child can actually infect other individuals. It is much more likely that a recently vaccinated child would be the start of an infection than an unvaccinated child. It says on the package inserts that children should avoid small children, the elderly, and any immune-compromised individuals for 21 days after vaccination – which most doctors and parents don’t know, and which is basically impossible without quarantine.

  • http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/02/18/the-deadly-impossibility-of-herd-immunity-through-vaccination-by-dr-russell-blaylock/
  • http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18922486 (rotavirus vaccine shedding)
  • http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21477676 (rotavirus shedding)

7) In fact, vaccines (barely) work at all.
It should be clear from the facts stated up until this point that vaccination is not the miracle it is purported to be. The sources below will explain further how nutrition and sanitation played into lowering disease rates, and how the original theory of vaccination is flawed. That is, as early as Pasteur’s discovery of the cow pox “inoculation,” vaccine theory was wrong. Pasteur did his research by placing pus from cow pox sores into several people. If they died, he wrote it off as a “bad batch” and did not count it in his research outcomes. If they did not die or become ill after only a few weeks (whether or not they were actually exposed to the disease), then it was considered successful.

Since “polio was eradicated,” several polio-like disorders have shown up. The most well-known is Guillain-barre syndrome, which has the exact same symptoms as polio but is caused by vaccines, including the polio vaccine and now, Gardasil. In many cases, scientists have refused to believe that diseases could still spread once the population has been vaccinated, so they give new names to the same group of symptoms.

Also, in other countries where there are large areas of low vaccination, these areas also have the lowest incidence of infection. Whooping cough is prominent in Australia right now, but is much higher in highly vaccinated communities than in lower vaccinated communities. Most cases of whooping cough occur in vaccinated individuals.

Sources:

  • http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/vitaminasaga.html
  • http://poisonevercure.150m.com/vaccines3.htm
  • http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8846485 (ATP rises as polio falls)
  • http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC255660/
  • http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20869467 (GBS after Gardasil)

8) Children’s developing immune systems and bodies need to be protected from chemicals.
Children are born with their mother’s immunities. They also are born with their immune systems in a “special” mode. If their immune systems were like normal adults or older children, then their mothers’ bodies would reject them as foreign. Their immune systems don’t come out of this special mode until at least 6 months, and some think not until 2 years (and every illness or vaccination overwhelms the immune system because it is unable to react properly, which delays this switch to normal functioning, and can eventually prevent it, leaving the child immuno-compromised). The blood-brain barrier is not impermeable until at least 2 years of age. In fact, some even think that peoples’ development (immune, brain, etc.) is not complete until their early 20s!

What all of this means is that anything that is injected into a small child can pass the blood-brain barrier and can potentially cause neurological damage. However, the possibility of a severe reaction never ceases (it can occur in adults, too), so delaying vaccination is not a safer answer, either. Besides – if vaccination is delayed and the child is clearly healthy, why start injecting poison?

Sources:

  • http://w3.newsmax.com/blaylock/47a.cfm

9) There is a correlation between increased vaccination and increased rates of chronic illnesses (diabetes, heart disease, autism, ADHD, etc.)
Please understand that ‘correlation’ and ‘causation’ are not the same thing, first of all. ‘Causation’ is to say that A made B happen; that is, that vaccines actually CAUSED all of these things. We know that current research hasn’t proven – or DISPROVEN – a causal relationship between vaccines and any of these illnesses.

However, it is true that they are correlated. That is, as the rates of vaccination increased – the number of required shots and the multitude of diseases they cover – rates of these illnesses increased, too. It is the position of anti-vax families that these areas have not been thoroughly or appropriately researched and that they must be followed up on. At this time, there is at least a chance that vaccines are causing or contributing to these chronic illnesses, and there is overwhelming anecdotal evidence to support this theory. At the very least, large, well-designed studies conducted by independent scientists need to look closer at a potential connection. Until this research exists (and it doesn’t; take a look at the following studies and their flawed designs), we can’t take this kind of risk with our childrens’ health.

Sources:

  • http://www.whale.to/vaccines/hancock1.html
  • http://www.whale.to/vaccine/incidence_of_pneumonia.html
  • http://www.vaccinationnews.org/Out_of_Control/2003/Sept_9/OOC1.htm
  • http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/75333.php
  • http://www.cure-guide.com/Natural_Health_Newsletter/Vaccines_and_ADHD_Autism/vaccines_and_adhd_autism.html
  • http://www.mercola.com/article/vaccines/immune_suppression.htm
  • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-carrey/the-judgment-on-vaccines_b_189777.html
  • http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/japvaxautism/

10) “Vaccine preventable” diseases are not nearly as scary as the media makes them seem.
These days, you only need to turn on the TV or click on a news website to read more information on what will happen if this anti-vaccination movement isn’t turned on its head. Reporters scream that measles are coming back, whooping cough is running rampant, and more. The actual number of these cases is quite small. The number of people in developed countries who get the measles in one year is around 12. This is far lower than the number of people who die of food-borne illnesses or who contract non-preventable diseases.

In reality, even without being vaccinated, the chances of catching the illnesses are quite low. Should one catch an illness, serious side effects are unlikely. Most children recover with no issues from chicken pox, measles, mumps, etc. 50 years ago, these were simply “childhood illnesses” that everyone had. Looking at the WHO and CDC, rates of morbidity and mortality continue to be low; serious side effects are almost non-existent. This data is based on decades of actual research and experience is highly reliable.

Sources:

  • http://pedsinreview.aappublications.org/cgi/content/extract/19/2/70
  • http://www.who.int/immunization_monitoring/diseases/en/ (search each disease)

11) Some diseases are not actually communicable, or are not helped by the vaccine designed to eradicate them.
First, the government has known since the 80s that HPV does not cause cervical cancer. The two illnesses are unrelated. So, Gardasil, which supposedly prevents cervical cancer by preventing HPV, is useless.

Second, polio cases rose and fell with the use of DDT as a chemical pesticide. Cases sharply dropped off when DDT was banned, years before the vaccine was ever introduced. The rate of polio cases fell by over 99% before the vaccine’s introduction. Also, in the 1940s, when the government was very concerned with the polio cases, they did tests on orphans and prisoners, swabbing their mouths with samples from those infected with polio. Not one single case of polio resulted from these tests, suggesting that polio isn’t communicable.

Sources:

  • http://www.westonaprice.org/envtoxins/pesticides_polio.html
  • http://www.wellwithin1.com/pol_all.htm
  • http://poisonevercure.150m.com/vaccines3.htm
  • http://www.wellwithin1.com/tetanus.htm

12) Scientists currently have a poor understanding of the immune system, the very thing they’re “helping” with vaccines.

In fact, exactly how disease is passed from person to person remains poorly understood. Scientists cannot account for why a relatively small percentage of the population gets sick with a given illness, even in an epidemic. Clearly, there are mitigating factors – some who are exposed won’t actually get sick, either due to stronger immune systems, past illnesses, or reasons yet unknown. Whatever the reason, scientists cannot explain what makes some vulnerable and others not. This is only part of what scientists don’t understand about the immune system, something they are messing with every time they give a vaccine.

It is known, however, that newborns’ immune systems are compromised in the first weeks or months of life. They are TH-2 heavy (the immune system reacts with a combination of TH-1 and TH-2 cells when something foreign invades; when TH-2 cells take over, the person is ill and vulnerable to more problems/illnesses), meaning they are more susceptible to illness. A vaccine keeps them in TH-2 mode far longer than they would naturally be, weakening their immune systems and teaching them to react incorrectly for life.

It is also known that children’s blood-brain barriers remain permeable for at least the first two years of their lives. This means that any vaccine they receive can cross into their brains and cause neurological damage.

Sources:

  • http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm
  • http://www.whale.to/vaccine/adjuvants.html#ADJUVANTS,_PRESERVATIVES_AND_TISSUE_FIXATIVES_IN_VACCINES_
  • http://www.wellness.com/reference/allergies/newborn-immune-system/
  • http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090401164041.htm

13) Most vaccine research is funded directly by drug companies or those with financial ties to the industry.

These days, most vaccine research is funded by the people who want the research done – the drug companies. There is little independent research. In most drug trials, a vaccine is compared not against a true placebo (i.e. saline solution), but against a previously licensed vaccine or against a vaccine with the virus removed (but still containing all the preservatives and other chemicals). This procedure skews the results so that the vaccine looks “safe” because no more adverse reactions occur in the experimental group than the “control” group (because reactions can also be caused by other vaccine ingredients, not just the virus).

Additionally, most researchers write off reactions as “coincidences” and do not count them because they believe that the vaccine “could not cause” such things. Should an adverse reaction be documented, it is common practice to split it into subcategories (dizziness, lightheadedness, faintness, etc.) so that more serious reactions appear to occur in a lower percentage of the test group.

Finally, it has recently been acknowledged that many studies published in peer reviewed journals had significant biases and so did the researchers who conducted them. This is because the journals are heavily supported by pharmaceutical advertising, so research which supports their products (even if poorly conducted) is more likely to be published.

Sources:

  • http://www.who.int/vaccine_research/documents/ethics/en/index.html
  • http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/135210.php
  • http://www.naturalnews.com/023074_the_FDA_drug_trials_drugs.html
  • http://www.naturalnews.com/021227_medical_journals_disease_drug_trials.html
  • http://www.naturalnews.com/022383_NaturalNews_health_CIA.html
  • http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/package_inserts.htm (all vaccine package inserts)

Throughout this document, there are 40+ different sources cited. In some cases, sources have more than one article supporting these facts. Please read them all; do not take my word for it. This is an important decision, and these sources will get you started on your way to researching.

If anyone is interested in more information on vaccines and their dangers, please feel free to send me your name and email and I will send you a copy of this as well as answering any questions you may have with my information and further source

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Comments

  1. says

    This is great. Sometimes (like when the news keeps reporting that Measles is spreading), I need to read things like this to get my head back on straight. I didn't know about that 21 day risk of spreading thing… it makes me think about what vaccinated kids could be exposing my kids to at church! I will not live in fear. :)

    Anyway, just to let you know #3 has some statistics missing (what is X?). Thanks for posting this. I'm looking forward to keeping up with your blog.

  2. anonymous says

    on number 3: 1 in 500 who are infected with measles die from it (via the cdc). your 1 in 300 million is probably referencing the probability of being infected in today's vaccinated world. if 300 million people were to be infected, 600,000 would die. Meanwhile, reported vaccine reaction rates are a very different thing than actual vaccine reaction rates. VAERS investigates all reported deaths due to vaccine reactions, and little or no evidence supports that any of the deaths reported have anything to do with vaccination.

    on number 5: widespread use of the measles vaccine began in 1963, not 1968 (the year you claim), the exact same year that the 99% drop in measles cases and deaths began. Similar results can be seen in numerous other vaccines, showing either a ridiculously unlikely coincidence or the effectiveness of these vaccines.

    on number 13: of course the drug companies fund the research! who do you think is going to research the potential benefits and effects of vaccines other than the people who are invested in developing them? their job is to develop the best possible drugs with the least side-effects, of course they are going to be the ones funding the studies. of course this leads to questions about validity and all that because they are companies who want to make money, but well-done studies can cost millions of dollars, so only someone who has that kind of money to gain will be willing to invest in those studies.

    i'm not saying that there aren't things to be concerned about with vaccines, but c'mon, lets be reasonable.

    • Kayla says

      I’m glad to see that someone actually took a moment to look at the sources on this page to see that whoever wrote this article didn’t quite fully summarize the information in the sources, instead just choice certain statistics that do not quite add up. If everyone were to choose not to vaccinate their children, we would simply be back to the same place we were in the early 1900’s.

      • says

        Hi Kayla,

        “If everyone were to choose not to vaccinate their children, we would simply be back to the same place we were in the early 1900’s.”

        Do you honestly, seriously think that not vaccinating means that medical science will regress 100 years? Really? Truly? I’m sorry, but that’s…crazy.

  3. genny says

    I enjoyed reviewing your points about vaccine and found them interesting. I know at least in the case of my sister she has a severe latex allergy and for her when they put the needles through the medication/vaccine tops it is enough for her to have a significant reaction. Still would have loved to be there when u told your “mainstream” pediatrician that your children aren’t having any vaccines!

  4. Kelly says

    Thanks for putting all this info on one page, it’s amazing to have it together and not scattered all over the Internet! So thanks for the time you put into all this!

  5. Pamela Browden says

    I will like to have a conversation with you about vaccines. My ”children”, you will be very interesting in them, and the children vaccines ( the combine ones) they received between 2003-2008. Very Concern mother

  6. Rebecca Matheny says

    I would really like good info/proof that disease was NOT eradicated by vaccines. I have friends that are just not willing to acknowledge this. To quote my friend’s husband, “Ignaz Semmelweis first discovered the link between handwashing procedure and preventing the spread of infection in 1847. The Chicago Sanitation Canal was built in 1910. Polio continued to devastate our children until Jonas Salk came up with a vaccine in 1955. Now, it’s practically unheard of, except in countries where (*gasp*) vaccination rates are very low. I don’t suppose you’re trying to suggest that foreigners are dirty people who don’t wash their hands? And before you argue that Salk was a schill for big pharma, you should know that he refused to patent his vaccine because he wanted it to be cheaply accessible to everyone.
    And yes, because science. Big pharma may fund a lot of studies, but so do the AMA, the WHO, and any number of organizations over the past 200 years before big pharma even became a thing. The argument that scientists are involved in a massive conspiracy theory to line their pockets is the same reasoning behind creationism and climate change denial. We live in a world without smallpox, we live in an country without polio. This is a direct result of vaccines. It’s been proven, long before . It’s not even matter for debate. It’s a matter for research.”

  7. Oliver says

    Thanks for that amazing and astounding information. I am in the process of putting together a waiver rejecting the need to administer vaccines as part of my immigration process. I object strongly and your words and research provide strong grounds for such objections. If you have any other information or advice that would help please forward it to my email.

    Many Thanks

  8. Elle Bakke says

    How do you get around school requirements then? Don’t most doctors and schools require certain vaccinations in order to be enrolled in school.

    • says

      Hi Elle,

      No! That’s a lie they tell everyone. In fact there are legal exemptions in all 50 states. Some have more options and are easier to get than others. But children can and do attend school without vaccines all the time.

    • says

      “Every year, 1.5 million children die from vaccine-preventable diseases” — almost ALL of them in third world countries, due to lack of proper nutrition, sanitation, clean water, and basic medical care. This is not comparable to the U.S.

      “When children in developing nations do not get vaccines, they can die.” — Clean water is FAR FAR FAR more important than a vaccine. I can’t actually believe anyone makes this argument. It is ridiculous. Anyone, everyone will die without clean water. It is a basic necessity of life. Why are we trying to vaccinate people who do not have clean water?!

      “If you think this issue doesn’t affect you, heads up: germs don’t need a passport.” — The point isn’t that we could catch an illness, on the small chance that someone flies to a third world country, gets infected, and brings it back (this happens 2 – 3 times a year, out of the literally thousands, possibly millions, of trips out of the country). But we will NOT be subject to the same death or complications rate as people in the third world.

      What this post is, is a straw man argument. They’re trying to say that because these diseases can be dangerous in the third world, that vaccines are the best answer (no) and that whether or not people in the U.S. vaccinate impacts how the third world fares (no). They’re deliberately using fear tactics and misinformation to try to get people to vaccinate.

      I guess the article was poorly titled. I sure can argue with those “realities.”

  9. Immunlogy Scientist says

    Just some considerations on 2 vaccine preventable diseases:

    Chickenpox: Children getting it are usually quite safe, it can be fatal though. The disease causes incredible itching and if you do not cut the fingernails of your beloved ones they can scratch themselves until bleeding. Everywhere. This can cause secondary infections.
    The problem with chickenpox though comes when adults or worse pregnant women are infected. In adults the infection with chickenpox can lead to meningitis, facial paralysis, ear damage and encephalitis. In Pregnant women the virus can infect the fetus leading to underdeveloped toes and fingers as well as severe anal and bladder malformation etc. This is related to the untrusted herd immunity. Even if your child will be safe without the vaccination you endanger everyone else – ironically mostly people who did not receive the vaccine; mostly because their parents chose to fight the pharma industry or else. Personally, I would hate my parents for such behavior then…

    Diphtheria: In children and adults causes a swelling of the throat which makes it difficult to breathe, especially children who do not know what happens to them fear suffocation, they panic. They have bloody pus in their nose and throat that stinks of death and decay.
    Just “Childhood diseases” right? There are numerous discussions about child abuse and what it causes, especially in later life – I am happy that I did not have to suffer through this! And that it is very unlikely in my developed country!
    If a disease is not 100% fatal, check the symptoms, think about how your child would suffer if it gets the disease!

    I do not neglect that pharma companies and even doctors sometimes do not know enough or are even lying. Our society has become sick of profit and money. I am happy that our society is gaining knowledge and does not see every man or woman in a lab-coat as a god. But putting your children at the front-line of your resistance is a terrible mistake! Send them to Highschools and Colleges, get them to the Universities. Teach them to teach themselves, to be responsible, to think instead of just trusting. Get them educated properly.

    Yes we do not fully understand the immune system yet. We can only prove that things work, and we try, every day. We are getting better with that, every day. It is not an easy job, and yes we do make mistakes. But just because of mistakes not everything is wrong! If one car explodes, would you stop driving? We are not greedy, we aren’t rich. We stand in our labs 5-7 days a week. It is not a hollywood life but it is what we like, what we do best, what we chose, because no one else wants this job. All we ask is you to trust us.
    We understand you fear, and we are adapting. We have recognized that today not the disease is our first enemy but the god-like behavior of our predecessors. My generation will do better, I promise. I see it every day when I go to work. Every day I am at conferences discussing exactly this with my colleagues.

    Yes, if we stop vaccinating our children we won’t be back to the middle ages, we have higher hygiene standards now and better medicine. But in a not so distant future, we again would have to rise 5 children to see 2 raising their own children!
    Remember, you’re playing with their future not with yours!

    • says

      Hi Immunology Scientist,

      You mention the most severe complications of chicken pox; you don’t say just how RARE these are. Or that secondary skin infections can be cured with raw honey and certain herbs…. (I’m sure you don’t believe that, but there’s actually peer-reviewed evidence proving it.)

      And diphtheria? There is, what, 1 case per year in the US? It just doesn’t happen. And we can and do cure it with medication. Why scare parents with it?

      There is risk either way — vaccinating or not. And each person must choose what they believe is right. It’s not cut-and-dried.

  10. Gina Codding says

    Yes, wonderful article, and thank you for putting the sources right there where no one can miss them. And the last reason is the topping on the cake for sure. A real kicker. People seem to think that the FDA has its own testing lab and scientists for testing things’ safety. THEY DO NOT. The FDA foolishly (on purpose?) leaves it to the company making the product to test and present the results. They just pay people well to make things seem how they want and the FDA is bad and catching bad science.



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